Date: 2008-05-08 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/magister_/
в исходном посте меня не устраивает их отсутствие.

они там не изложены (изложены факты, относящиеся к другому случаю - перечитайте внимательнее, если не заметили).
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